And so, when a person meets the half that is his very own, whatever his orientation, whether it's to young men or not, then something wonderful happens: the two are struck from their senses by love, by a sense of belonging to one another, and by desire, and they don't want to be separated from one another, not even for a moment.
PlatoDo you know, when I am with you I am not afraid at all. It is a magic altogether curious that happens inside the heart. I wish I could take it with me when I leave.
It is sad, my Grey. We are constrained by the rules of this Game we play. There is not one little place under those rules for me to be with you happily. Or apart happily, which is what makes it so unfair.
I have discovered a curious fact about myself. An hour ago I was sure you were dead, and it hurt very much. Now you are alive, and it is only that I must leave you, and I find that even more painful. That is not at all logical.
Do you know the Symposium, Grey? The Symposium of Plato. [He] says that lovers are like two parts of an egg that fit together perfectly. Each half is made for the other, the single match to it. We are incomplete alone. Together, we are whole. All men are seeking that other half of themselves. Do you remember?
I think you are the other half of me. It was a great mix-up in heaven. A scandal. For you there was meant to be a pretty English schoolgirl in the city of Bath and for me some fine Italian pastry cook in Palermo. But the cradles were switched somehow, and it all ended up like this…of an impossibility beyond words.
I wish I had never met you. And in all my life I will not forget lying beside you, body to body, and wanting you.
Tags: love soulmates plato spies two-halves-of-a-whole
My worldview aside from my Christian perspective is more aligned with Plato's thinking, conclusions, and philosophy
R. Alan WoodsTags: christianity plato worldviews r-alan-woods phiosophy
Segundo Platão, um filosofo grego:
No início da criação, os homens e as mulheres não eram como hoje; havia apenas um ser, baixo, com um corpo e um pescoço, mas a cabeça tinha duas faces, cada uma olhando para uma direcção. Era como se as duas criaturas estivessem presas pelas costas, com dois sexos opostos, quatro pernas e quatro braços.
Os deuses gregos, porém, eram ciumentos, e viram que uma criatura que tinha quatro braços trabalhava mais, as duas faces opostas estavam sempre vigilantes e não exigiram tanto esforço para ficar de pé ou andar por longos períodos. E, o que era mais perigoso, a tal criatura tinha dois sexos diferentes, não precisavam de ninguém para continuar a reproduzir-se. Então, disse Zeus, o supremo senhor do Paraíso: "Tenho um plano para fazer com que estes mortais percam a sua força."
E, com um raio, cortou a criatura em dois, criando o homem e a mulher. Isso aumentou muito a população do mundo, e ao mesmo tempo desorientou e enfraqueceu os que nele habitavam- porque agora tinham de procurar de novo a sua parte perdida, abraçá-la novamente, e nesse abraço recuperar a força antiga, a capacidade de evitar a traição, a resistência para andar durante longos períodos e aguentar o trabalho cansativo. A esse abraço em que os dois corpos se fundem de novo em um chamamos sexo.
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Depois de os deuses separarem a dita criatura com sexos opostos, por que razão algumas delas resolvem que o dito abraço pode ser apenas uma coisa, um negocio como outro qualquer- que em vez de aumentar, retira a energia às pessoas ?
Tags: love plato portuguese
In Darwins post-platonische werelds is de variatie de fundamentele werkelijkheid en veranderen berekende gemiddelden in abstracties. We blijven echter de voorkeur geven aan het oudere en tegengestelde standpunt: we zien variatie nog steeds als een massa onlogische toevalligheden, die hoofdzakelijk van waarde is omdat zo'n spreiding te gebruiken is voor de berekening van een gemiddelde, hetgeen we dan beschouwen als iets wat een essentie nog het best benadert.
Stephen Jay GouldTags: darwin plato evolutie variatie
Wealth does not bring about excellence, but excellence makes wealth and everything else good for men, both individually and collectively.
SocratesTags: wealth death trial excellence plato socrates
When I kiss Agathon my soul is on my lips, where it comes, poor thing, hoping to cross over.
PlatoEven now I'm well aware that if I allowed myself to listen to him I couldn't resist but would have the same experience again. He makes me admit that, in spite of my great defects, I neglect myself and instead get involved in Athenian politics. So I force myself to block my ears and go away, like someone escaping from the Sirens, to prevent myself sitting there beside him till I grow old.
PlatoTags: plato socrates symposium alcibiades
There was no sign of Plato, and I was told later that he had gone to live in his Republic, where he was cheerfully submitting to his own Laws. [...] None of the Stoics were present. Rumour had it that they were still clambering up the steep hill of Virtue [...]. As for the Sceptics, it appeared that they were extremely anxious to get there, but still could not quite make up their minds whether or not the island really existed.
Lucian of SamosataTags: scepticism stoicism plato republic
Is there not one true coin for which all things ought to exchange?- and that is wisdom; and only in exchange for this, and in company with this, is anything truly bought or sold, whether courage, temperance or justice. And is not all true virtue the companion of wisdom, no matter what fears or pleasures or other similar goods or evils may or may not attend her? But the virtue which is made up of these goods, when they are severed from wisdom and exchanged with one another, is a shadow of virtue only, nor is there any freedom or health or truth in her; but in the true exchange there is a purging away of all these things, and temperance, and justice, and courage, and wisdom herself, are a purgation of them.
SocratesTags: wisdom virtue plato socrates
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